(“personhood” on the creaturely level, perhaps) or to deny to God any similarity to created reality through a process of negating the limits thought to belong to the creaturely does not really matter at the end of the day. Both are exercises in metaphysics because both take up a starting point “from below” in some creaturely reality or magnitude and proceed through a process of inferential reasoning to establish the nature of divine reality. And this means, third, that both claim to know what God